Posted By Jenn
Earlier today, Asian American scholars and activists organized a Twitter townhall to discuss affirmative action on the hashtag #NotYourWedge. The six panelists for the event were (including myself):
- Jenn Fang, Founder/Editor of Reappropriate (@reappropriate)
- Jason Fong, Former Intervener in SFFA v. Harvard (@jasonfongwrites)
- Nancy Leong, Law Professor at the University of Denver (@nancyleong)
- OiYan Poon, Professor of Higher Education at Colorado State University (@spamfriedrice)
- Anurima Bhargava, Former Chief of the Educational Opportunities Section of the Civil Rights Division at the US Department of Justice (@anurima)
- Janelle Wong, Political Science & Asian American Studies Professor at the University of Maryland (@ProfJanelleWong)
The townhall was co-hosted by:
- Advancing Justice – Los Angeles (@AAAJ_LA)
- Vanessa Teck, Doctoral Student (@VanessaTeck)
- Amanda Assalone, co-Chair of the Asian Pacific American Network (@assalone1)
- Rachel Luna, Higher Education Doctoral Student (@RachelHLuna)
After the jump, you can read the archive of today’s townhall!
Join us TODAY at 3PM (Pacific Time) for a Twitter Town Hall! Let's be sure everyone knows that AAPIs are #NotYourWedge. pic.twitter.com/HHPvyDj2ny
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Welcome to #NotYourWedge Townhall re: #AffirmativeAction & Asian Americans. MOD today is @AAAJ_LA tweeting out questions using Q1, Q2, etc.
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Respond to questions w/ A1, A2, etc. Be sure to include the hashtag #NotYourWedge anywhere in your tweet
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Assisting MODs today are @RachelHLuna @assalone1 @vanessateck. Reach out w/ questions or issues #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
I hope lots of folks Tweet questions too! We'll respond with research, data, and #NotAlternativeFacts #NotYourWedge https://t.co/sIpqYFKY9n
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
An @AAPIData @AAAJ_AAJC @APIAVote found that 52% of Asian American voters thought positively of affirmative action programs. #NotYourWedge pic.twitter.com/BHHNvlTPRT
— NCAPA (@NCAPAtweets) August 8, 2017
Before we begin, here's a master-list of AAPIs writing in support of aff action: https://t.co/606djNEZuM #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Here is a link to the joint statement issued by 135+ AAPI orgs in support of aff action in 2015. https://t.co/tG8F8bqPyS #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Let’s begin! Welcome to panelists @reappropriate, @jasonfongwrites, @nancyleong, @spamfriedrice, @anurima, @ProfJanelleWong #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Q1: Does affirmative action discriminate against AAPIs? Is there an “Asian tax?” #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A1: Let’s clarify our language. “Affirmative action” is any policy to encourage inclusion of historically excluded groups. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/PTJtmcNARB
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
“Negative action” is any policy designed to limit, exclude, or discriminate against groups of people. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Aff action to increase inclusion of historically excluded groups is not by default neg action against well-represented ppl. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Contemporary aff action policies have undergone strict scrutiny by DOJ & SCOTUS, with no evidence of discrimination uncovered. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Most recently, DOJ examined Princeton admissions in 2015, & found no evidence of anti-Asian bias. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/D057qWhIB0
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
From DOJ report on Princeton: “Asian applicants were not competing against only Asian applicants for admission” #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
From DOJ report on Princeton: “Applications were not sorted, read, or processed according to the race of the applicant.” #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
From DOJ report on Princeton: “There were no quotas for any racial or national origin category of applicant.” #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
In summary, a multi-year investigation of Princeton found no evidence of anti-Asian negative action in admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Instead, at Princeton, As Am enrollment is 20% of freshman class (https://t.co/W57K05NPK1). This is double its rate in 1990. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We should be mindful: Asian Americans are, as a whole, represented in Ivies at 4-fold greater than our nat’l population size. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
At Harvard, As Am enrollment has increased since 2000 concomitant w overall increases in Asian Am pop size. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Indeed, from Harvard Crimson in 2015: 22% of Harvard applicants were AsAm. 22% of enrolled students for Class ’19 also AsAm. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
These numbers indicate that AsAms were admitted to Harvard at exact same rate as overall applicant pool. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
If there is a negative action against Asian Americans in admissions, why doesn’t it therefore reflect in these numbers? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A1-Aff Action aids AAPIs in education and employment. Many AAPIs are INCLUDED in Aff Action programs. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A1. Especially those who are members of underrepresented groups- Laotian, Cambodian, Hmong, Thai, Vietnamese, Native Hawaiian. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/ZFjHY99Det
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
A1-AsAm populations have increased in past 10 yrs at ivies with aff am. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A1-1 in 5 Ivy League undergrads are AsAm and not all have perfect grades/test scores. #NoAsianTax #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A1-AsAms are 5% of US public hs student pop but 20% at Harvard, 26% at MIT. That’s not illegal discrimination. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A1: Of course not. Affirmative action uses numerous metrics to gauge oppression, many of which marginalized AAPI's face #notyourwedge https://t.co/HCLMAj1rsD
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A1: AAPIs are not a monolith. Some are underrepresented in college and universities, which is why disaggregation matters. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/QddyaScX8T
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
Q1. Aff action helps Asian Ams. Everyone benefits from diversity & underrep'd groups-Lao, Hmong, Cambodian-helped directly. #notyourwedge 1/
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Q1. True that Asian Ams have higher avg SAT scores at some schools. But SAT is a terrible way to choose winners among 17yos #notyourwedge 2/
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Q1. SATs favor students w/ resources to take prep courses, & they explain less than 30% of variation in college grades. #notyourwedge 3/
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Q1. Colleges should-and many already do-look holistically at what student can bring- leadership, obstacles overcome, etc. #notyourwedge /fin
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
A1.Do Asian Ams score higher on SAT/ACT?Not due to innate group diffs-MUST be systematic. Affirmative action 1 way to address #NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
Q1.Asians score high on tests b/c parents on average wealthier, more highly educated -just reward Asian Amer class-advantage?#NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
Q1.Asian Americans SAT/ACT scores high. High test scrs don't predict overall college success-not capturing smarts or potential #NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
https://t.co/VP73ubYOL7 Board admits SAT measures wealth, not smarts https://t.co/0g3dez4Sje #NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
Yes! Plus grades, essays, rec letters + extracurriculars better predictors of success. It's why 900+ colleges r "test optional"#NotYourWedge https://t.co/HzdEIc2FdX
— Lynnette KhalfaniCox (@themoneycoach) August 8, 2017
A1: Espenshade study (Asians need higher scores) wasn’t evid aff axn=anti-Asian bcuz selective adms uses 100s of factors #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1: Espenshade only looked at tests, gpa, race so it’s not smoking gun of anti-Asian discrim https://t.co/H6jnVAggRN #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1: To really answer Q1, you need to understand how selective admissions works #NotYourWedge #NoAlternativeFacts pic.twitter.com/XQakRejLxj
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1:Post’03 aff axn not to address racial discrim/disparities. Grutter: aff axn&diversity-ed benefits for all #NotYourWedge #DiversityBargain
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1: Holistic adms rev-all apps eval’d as whole human beings, not just a num. My SAT=1240. What u kno bout me? Not much #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1: Learn more about #affirmativeaction #DiversityBargain by @nkwarikoo – great op-ed https://t.co/c5aya8BoNV #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1: Fisher2: Race as “factor w/in a factor”-unless app writes abt significance of racial identity, checking box meaningless #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1:Won't kno much abt me frm just race box. if I write abt it, can see how race contrib to my lead'ship skill #factorinfactor #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A1: Why higher AsAm scores? Cld be many factors. See prefs for legacies, donors, famous ppl, student athl – all mostly white #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
"I'm against #AffirmativeAction because college admissions should be based on MERIT" is bullshit.
Ur HYPOCRISY is showing. #NotYourWedge— Jenny Yang???? (@jennyyangtv) August 8, 2017
A1: Society discriminates against AsAms, and AfAms, Latinx, NativeAms and others. To single out Affirmative Action exacerbates #NotYourWedge https://t.co/nn0lpltTUC
— xian f'znger barrett (@xianb8) August 8, 2017
Right! What is "merit"? SAT reliably predicts 5-6% variance in college frosh GPA. Nothing more. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/PDrH9cnqNB
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
SATs strongly correlate w student SES, family income. They only weakly correlate with student performance or academic merit. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/3q7BLrjmsG
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Sup Ct has repeatedly held that school diversity policies are Constitutional. Including last year. In 2016. #fishervtexas #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A pipeline to leadership open to students of all racial/ethnic backgrounds is critical to our democracy, military, business. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
Also: I don’t believe there is ANY member of today’s panel who would defend neg action if it were ever convincingly proven. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
But, convincing evidence of negative action is scarce, even while critics target policies demonstrated to help AAPI &other POC #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
I want to be clear tho that I'm not denying possiblity of anti-AsAm discrim in elite admiss, but NO RESEARCH to show there is. #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Possible anti-Asian discrim in elite admiss is NOT DUE TO AFF AXN. #NotYourWedge #SendResearchGrant #iCanStudyAndDetermine lol
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Even if there is, anti-AsAm discrim is due to white racism, not affirmative action. #NotYourWedge
— Eugenia Beh (@ebeh) August 8, 2017
Who benefits from discriminatory college admissions policies? White males https://t.co/7Ckd5TcsXm #NotYourWedge
— Eugenia Beh (@ebeh) August 8, 2017
And we need to educate w/i our communities that deals w/white supremacy are both wrong and will not be honored anyway. #NotYourWedge
— xian f'znger barrett (@xianb8) August 8, 2017
Dismantling affirmative action ignores efforts of black activists who fought for nonwhite Americans. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/ZBKldoGjU4
— NCAPA (@NCAPAtweets) August 8, 2017
Q2: How does affirmative action benefit AAPI communities? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A2: In HiEd racial diversity benefits AsAms in cognitive, social, leadership, etc.-Big Ed Benefits https://t.co/8a7u1QtBdh #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A2: w/o aff axn contracting, SF Asian biz get near 0 public contracts. W/aff axn more contracts. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/yyGlV5icv7
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A2: Low Income AsAms get boosted by race conscious admissions according to Espenshade #NotYourWedge https://t.co/7DuxFRLMls (See pp 99-100)
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A2: AffAxn needed to fight anti-Asian discrim in grad adm (https://t.co/GcZTHYvAeO) and employmt (https://t.co/GcZTHYvAeO) #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A2: Affirmative action helps AAPIs in many, many, many ways. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/Z2kqFYGba9
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Historically Asians/Asian Ams have been direct beneficiaries of early aff action policies that desegregated higher ed schools. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Many colleges & universities were white-only & disallowed access to women or POC. Aff action changed that. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Early programs that might now be called aff action actively sought out uni enrollment of Asian/Asian Am students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
These efforts were crucial first steps in the racial and gender desegregation of modern colleges and universities. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Are you Asian American and did you get a degree from a college or university? Aff action is one of the reasons why. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Today, some Asian Americans are well-represented on-campus, but other AsAms & PIs remain profoundly underrepresented. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
For some SE AsAms for e.g., bachelor’s degree attainment is just 14%, less than half nat’l average. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/m2h0yycmzs
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
For those under-repped AsAms & PIs, affirmative action continues to be a direct benefit. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Loss of race-conscious aff action in CA has negatively affected Filipino enrollment at UC schools. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/sxeWfrDylZ
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
In absence of aff action, Filipino American students are largely “shut out” of UC system’s top schools. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
But, holistic review doesn’t assign ‘plus’ or ‘minus’ factors for race. It considers applicants individually, and as a whole. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Holistic review considers all aspects of applicant, specifically asking: “Who are you?” and not just “How well do you test?” #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Holistic review looks beyond test scores to see who students are & how will contribute to diverse on-campus community. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Therefore, a student who cites a high SAT score, GPA, or other quant score is only addressing part of what schools look for. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
As Am applicants can benefit hugely from holistic review. Holistic review provides context for applicant information. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
This context can be beneficial to AsAm applicants (as with all applicants) and help them stand out even more from others. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A2.SAT measures wealth, more than aptitude. Should we use wealth (SAT score) as primary admission criteria? #NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
A2: There are many environments where we continue to be underrepresented and are benefited by affirmative action. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/kRkar16pRP
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A2: BTW – When UT Austin included race as a factor, Asian American student admissions increased. #NotYourWedge
— Vanessa Na (Teck) (@VanessaTeck) August 8, 2017
A2: I believe I personally benefited from affirmative action in both high school and college as an Indian American. #NotYourWedge
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A2-Aff Am addresses historical injustices-we all benefit from a more just and equal society. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A2-Aff Am creates a diverse learning community, helps to teach cultural competency. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
Filipinos are the LARGEST Asian Ameican group in CA. Tagalog is the most widespread Asian language in CA. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/xo8JKCMewV
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
Beyond this, campus diversity creates positive benefits for ALL students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Schools have SCOTUS-affirmed “compelling interest” to ensure enrolled students have access to thriving campus life. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Schools have compelling interest to encourage diversity in all forms: linguistic, cultural, political, academic, racial, etc. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
There are MANY studies showing that classroom diversity improves academic outcomes for ALL students, incl As Am students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Student exposure to on-campus diversity increases cognitive development, self-confidence, problem-solving, & crit thinking. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Student exposure to classroom diversity improves academic performance in fields as varied as humanities to STEM. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Student exposure to classroom diversity also improves social skills, racial tolerance, and general open-mindedness. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
These latter skills prepare students to navigate increasingly globalized, multiracial, and multicultural professional sector. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
AAPI students – even if may not be direct beneficiaries of aff action – benefit hugely from resulting on-campus diversity. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Studies repeatedly show that quality of education a student gets is magnitudes better when learning in diverse environment. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
One could argue that university’s focus on on-campus diversity is part of what makes them elite & competitive in 1st place. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
After all, not all colleges &universities use race-conscious aff action, but top-ranked US schools do. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/9ZkD4mGjpx
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And this diversity "boost" also applies to employment settings #NotYourWedge https://t.co/oeUdzhvw3X
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
–But the PRINCIPLE of righting historical discrim. via #AffirmativeAction is fundamental to how we will heal our democracy. #NotYourWedge—
— Jenny Yang???? (@jennyyangtv) August 8, 2017
–Righting historical wrongs is policy frame we CANNOT abandon. Anti-#AffirmativeAction wants to reframe & FORGET HISTORY.– #NotYourWedge
— Jenny Yang???? (@jennyyangtv) August 8, 2017
Alright, @jennyyangtv! ?? #NotYourWedge pic.twitter.com/MD9pO5Z1Sj
— 18MR.org (@18millionrising) August 8, 2017
Even if there were an Asian tax (THERE ISN'T), we should still support affirmative action to right historical wrongs. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/heYg9PQphs
— Laura M. Cheifetz (@lmcheifetz) August 8, 2017
As ChineseAm woman my support of affirmaxn is not contingent on whether it supports me or my son #notyourwedge
— ChiHapaMama (@chihapamama) August 8, 2017
A2: AffAct corrects historical inequality in an education system tht particularly marginalies and affects SE Asians, Islanders #notyourwedge https://t.co/gJrcLfhu8g
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
Helps us get into college
But also if it helps the black community then thats enough reason for us to support it too #notyourwedge https://t.co/jCyMJbju59
— free speechs a scam (@hellohln) August 8, 2017
A2: Fighting against underrepresentation in higher ed and other arenas helps EVERYONE, including AsAms. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/qkjYKE0LNu
— xian f'znger barrett (@xianb8) August 8, 2017
A2. Let's not forget that benefiting our allies benefits us. Black activists of 60s paved way for civil rights gains by AAPI. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/3dBJ5NQjlt
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
A2. Bottom line, interracial solidarity is absolutely CRITICAL to civil rights progress. Our predecessors understood that. #NotYourWedge pic.twitter.com/IZjvuX50yw
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
A2. More on Huey Newton and early black-Asian solidarity here: https://t.co/3qJwVXt1tS #NotYourWedge #YellowPerilSupportsBlackPower https://t.co/XxdxZUKNlW
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Stop trying to get Asians to carry out anti-blackness/anti-POC by denying #AffirmativeAction. Not your model minority and #NotYourWedge
— Ann Thuy Nguyen (@annthuynguyen) August 8, 2017
#NotYourWedge @NAPABA @AAAJ_AAJC @aaldef pic.twitter.com/NyyfOhsLf4
— NCAPA (@NCAPAtweets) August 8, 2017
–Forget the weight of Amer. history is how we get to whites claiming reverse discrimination. #AffirmativeAction is NOT FOR U #NotYourWedge
— Jenny Yang???? (@jennyyangtv) August 8, 2017
A2 Racial and ethnic violence is on the rise. Need to learn about each other, build community, and bridges across communities. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
I am for disaggregated data by ethnicity, & yet, what does that do for discussing #AsianAmericans as a race? #NotYourWedge #ActivistAsian
— Jenny Korn ~ Groovy! (@JennyKorn) August 8, 2017
Such a good point bc both are important. Disaggregated data important bc considerable diversity among Asian subgroups… #notyourwedge https://t.co/sgGPhil70V
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
…but also impt to discuss #AsianAmericans as a race-like it or not, Americans tend to grp us together & our fates are linked #notyourwedge https://t.co/sgGPhil70V
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Q3: Are the anti-affirmative voices truly representative of all AAPI communities? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A3: NO! See https://t.co/6e8WFfC0nb media is giving way too much attn to small group of vocal Chinese w/$$$ #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A3-Media needs to seek out more diverse AAPI voices when discussing AffAction Looking at you @NYTimes @DanaGoldstein #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A3: No. Frankly, they demonstrate the worst of us including anti-blackness and lack of historical knowledge. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/b1XDv4ukZZ
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A3: No, but white supremacist systems will always highlight specific voices w/i a community to justify white racism. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/GermyD41bp
— xian f'znger barrett (@xianb8) August 8, 2017
No. Thousands of people liked/RT my thread on how AAPI SUPPORT affirmative action. The moment is here: https://t.co/SWwrh4WuqK #NotYourWedge https://t.co/b1XDv4ukZZ
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A3: No. @reappropriate (has info) the visibility of anti illustrates how American society wants us to buy honorary whiteness #notyourwedge https://t.co/b1KOAD5Atn
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A3: EXACTLY. hypervisibilty of dissenting opinion creates obstacles to cross-racial coalition. Just like model minority myth #notyourwedge https://t.co/i43TJYit47
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A3: FYI – Over half (65%) of Asian Americans support affirmative action. #NotYourWedge
— Vanessa Na (Teck) (@VanessaTeck) August 8, 2017
A3: Small anti-aff axn Chinese grp mad that gen’l soc don’t pay attn to ways they exp discrim. Also self-interest & anti-black #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A3-Majority of AAPI are S/SE Asian – not East Asian but most voices in AffAction are EAsian #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
Don't let a tiny minority represent us! The majority of AsAms support Aff Action #NotYourWedge https://t.co/M1zqFxcdRb
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A3: Contrary to vocal opposition, multiple studies have shown that roughly 2/3 of AAPIs support affirmative action. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/PUrzPGUUM7
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Anti-affirmative action voices don’t represent the broad support for aff action in the AAPI community. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Unfortunately, these anti-aff action voices rarely even include the voices of SE Asians or PIs. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Consider, for example, how many of 60+ grps who filed joint DOJ complaint against aff action rep full AAPI comm? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
When one includes the full spectrum of the AAPI community, one finds support for aff action is expansive. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
In 2012, the National Asian American Survey found 76% of As Ams, 65% of PIs support aff action. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/wfxS6Yyli6
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
An updated NAAS survey found support for aff action among AAPI remain similarly strong in 2016. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Focused surveys specifically of AAPIs in California also showed support strong for aff action. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/QW3rPGmZhA
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
135+ nat’l AAPI groups have issued joint statement in support of aff action. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/xGIm1h4bWR
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Meanwhile, AAPI writers have been writing support for aff action for years. Here’s a master-list: https://t.co/PGTMIN9UVt #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Yes! Here's a great summary of research https://t.co/8a7u1QtBdh #NotYourWedge https://t.co/tOnAVOPzyH
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
The fact that my PhD mentor Don Nakanishi was hired through aff axn pgm benefited me. Because he was there for me. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/B9FmX1Z2MZ
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A3. AAPI groups came out strong to the Supreme Court in support of aff action. In 2003, 2013, 2016. Celebrate our diversity. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
64% of Asian American voters favor affirmative action programs. #NotYourWedge pic.twitter.com/S3opwuErgM
— NCAPA (@NCAPAtweets) August 8, 2017
I RESENT elite Asian nationals advocating against #AffirmativeAction because they couldn't get their kids into HARVARD.– #NotYourWedge
— Jenny Yang???? (@jennyyangtv) August 8, 2017
–Yeah. I said it. Some elite of Asian countries see U.S. Ivies as portal to their success. Don't confuse them w rest of us. #NotYourWedge
— Jenny Yang???? (@jennyyangtv) August 8, 2017
How does AffAxn (if any) account for first-gen status, directly or indirectly, for AsAm students? #notyourwedge
— Jacqueline Mac (@missjackimac) August 8, 2017
Good question! Holistic review takes into acct all aspects of app to consider campus diversity, incl their first-gen status. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/xEYYoHHpVU
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A student frm a well-repped racial grp can & likely will receive consideration for immigration status in holistic review. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
#NotYourWedge A2: Black Asians and Latinx Asians exist and they still need to go to college too.
— Gay C-sexual (@dtwps) August 8, 2017
Critics buy into narrow interpretation of holistic review to assume it is solely race-determinative. It's not. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Also would like to note this is just like the elites in EVERY other community #notyourwedge https://t.co/gIAcR6HPde
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
Goal of those trying to end affirmative action: take out ANY consideration of race/ethnicity. Want to erase not celebrate us. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
End divide and conquer. Stand together. And learn together. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
Does anyone know if Harvard's stats include international students? #NotYourWedge https://t.co/ynTGfWriz5
— Michelle Li (@emilytwo) August 8, 2017
They typically do not. Most schools report int'l students separately bc they are handled slightly differently in admissions #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
The reason is bc schools only accept a fixed number of int'l students, & tuition is diff, so they are considered separately. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
They report stats to the fed gov't w/o international numbers. "International" is a separate category. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/F5zPTndBgm
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
They also need to take diff tests to qualify for holistic review. So for reasons, they are essentially a separate pool. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
at some schools, more intl students than URMs but anti-aff action folks silent on intl admissions #NotYourWedge https://t.co/vg0QUEDTdo
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
Q4: What are some actual policies that AAPI communities can advocate around affirmative action? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A4: Obviously, I think Asian Americans should be working to actively protect aff action and higher education access for all. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/RP8TJmwWvX
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A4: When we see affirmative action being attacked or eroded, we need to raise our voices and defend it. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/d3h7kQK5Ax
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
Besides fighting to preserve policies of diversity & inclusion, AsAms can also work to end legacy admissions practices. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Studies show that Asian Americans are most disadvantaged by admission policies that privilege legacy students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Legacy students are students admitted bc of familial history of enrollment at an elite school. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
These students are not only admitted w lower scores, but (unlike POCs) perform less well in 1st year. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/q1h4bQ7T0r
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Meanwhile, AsAms by virtue of being primarily 1st-gen immigrant pop don’t have access to legacy considerations in admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Meanwhile, AsAms by virtue of being primarily 1st-gen immigrant pop don’t have access to legacy considerations in admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Legacy exists largely to protect elite uni endowment funds, with little else going into the calculus of legacy admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
AsAms should join fight to end legacy admissions that are largely only available to wealthy students from family institutions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Legacy admits contribute about 1/4 of students at elite schools. Earn lower grades and test below average. #notyourwedge https://t.co/Q4hmRbv35h
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
Exactly. If there is anything that limits higher ed access for AsAms or other POCs, it is legacy admissions. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/cwmVVvjoBI
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Legacy admissions. #1 form of affirmative action for white people. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/jDjZ6Q8Vp7
— Laura M. Cheifetz (@lmcheifetz) August 8, 2017
I have a hard time calling "legacy" aff axn, since it's such an unjust practice. Confuses terms. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/FYoJM55s8d
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Call it what it is – white supremacy #NotYourWedge https://t.co/FYoJM55s8d
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
So one must wonder why critics of aff action level attacks there vs. against those admitted under legacy considerations? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Legacy admissions – BAH! #NotYourWedge https://t.co/sJYhu4IGFy
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
I agree but suspect many AsAm alumni of selective schools wary of ending legacy admissions just as their kids begin to benefit #NotYourWedge
— Aaron (@aaronkorea) August 8, 2017
Certainly true, but it it doesn't make sense to support an unfair system just bc we stand to finally privilege from it. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/CE7VVfQPtB
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And, even if some AsAms might start to benefit from legacies, our comm is still growing primarily thru immig. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Those first-gen immig will still, so long as they continue to make up sizable portion of us, be excluded by legacy policies. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
So here's something awk @reappropriate. Blum's latest SFFA v Harvard actually is criticizing legacy. They learnin #NotYourWedge https://t.co/povZDUQCkp
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Yes, Blum's SFFA lawsuit takes aim at holistic review, aff action, and legacy. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/5ny5Y6t0EI
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
But the issue is that he endorses a strict high-stakes testing only model of college admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
He's seeking to throw out ALL holistic review, and basically anything that isn't an SAT score and a GPA. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
That's a bad model that will do catastrophic damage to the university classroom. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
It will virtually eliminate any capacity to think about student life, but also just to balance admission of diff majors. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We haven't talked abt this, but one reason for holistic review is just so you don't end up w 95% students wanting premed track #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And then you don't end up having to layoff all your humanities profs bc you weren't able to see what students wanted to study. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Secondly, if AsAms are concerned about access to higher ed, we can be working to increase funding for public universities. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A4-In CA-we need to support public university system (CC,CSU,UC)-where the majority of AAPI attend. Support state funding! #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
Largest drop in AsAm enrollment in CA in UC wasn’t aff action, it was loss of public funding. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/NKFXCh1bY1
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
AsAms can work to preserve state funding of universities, and expand # of seats for all students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
At the same time, we can work to make quality of ed at public universities match that of elite schools. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
After all, two-thirds of Asian Americans are enrolled in public universities, not private colleges & universities. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
This. Which includes many AANAPISIs and community colleges. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/xZ0cizjuPF
— Vigor Lam (@Veegorous) August 8, 2017
@reappropriate and to support minority serving institutions, like AANAPISIs, who are changing campus environments for AAPIs. #notyourwedge https://t.co/3XlbSjcikT
— Jacqueline Mac (@missjackimac) August 8, 2017
Like me. I went to public university. I'm glad every day I went public. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/FEIgyAJLdR
— Laura M. Cheifetz (@lmcheifetz) August 8, 2017
A4: Restore public funding, scholarships, pell grants. Lower tuition. I was only able to afford a state school b/c of them. #notyourwedge https://t.co/jZ6H9IlJir
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A4: Add a class component. End legacy admissions. Investigate and reform admission systems that favor white identifiers. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/3nspwEUgta
— xian f'znger barrett (@xianb8) August 8, 2017
This includes prefs for celeb kids, donor kids, and student athletes >85% of athletes = white. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/Xl5QhXMiYp
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Also, applicant class, income, SES are several factors already considered in holistic review at many schools, too. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/bWxO2VyQJa
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We have to keep engaging and getting our stories out there and refuse to be silenced by a few loud and monied folks #NotYourWedge https://t.co/na6fk4iijl
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
There IS a difference between AsAms and AAPIs. Let's remember to not further marginalize the PI community and speak for them. #NotYourWedge
— Vigor Lam (@Veegorous) August 8, 2017
This. Please note that I am very careful to use AsAm vs. AAPI where it is appropriate. We should all do the same. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/xGesFVVBih
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Because PIs aren't stereotyped as model minority/used as a wedge. I don't use "AAPI." Great reminder! #NotYourWedge https://t.co/TAo4Qqyr7n
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Q5: In CA the % of Asian Ams in colleges went up bc of Prop 209, how do you explain that? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A5: In post-209 CA, SE Asians, NHPI, and low inc AsAm numbers decreased. Look at which AsAms increased #NotYourWedge https://t.co/I0dV13URZn
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A5: Again, disaggregate. The poorest, monolingual and non-citizen AsAm's did not benefit from Prop 209 #NotYourWedge
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A5: Diff btwn app nums, admit rate, & enrollment nums-diff stats Post209 AsAm enr nums, not admit up #NotYourWedge https://t.co/I0dV13URZn
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A5: FunFact, >60% of AsAm admits enroll at UC, next group is AfAm (~ 32%), then Latino (~30%) & White (~20%) #NotYourWedge #RaceMatters
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A5: College choice behaviors and structures matter to understand why AsAm enrollment seemed to increase post-209 #NotYourWedge #ReadResearch
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A5: Also, UC has 14 criteria, defined differently by each undergrad campus. Includes “geography”. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/aEZ8QKDnXa
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A5: Actly, Prop209 (which ended aff action in CA) had minimal impact on overall AsAm enrollment at UCs #NotYourWedge https://t.co/NKFXCh1bY1 https://t.co/5wTrFGQwa2
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Even while Prop 209 had a huge negative effect on enrollment of Black, Latinx and Native students. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/NKFXCh1bY1
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
#Prop209 actually hurt significant segments of the Asian American community. #NotYourWedge pic.twitter.com/NNBu1m9bmY
— 18MR.org (@18millionrising) August 8, 2017
When talking abt elite admissions we're talking abt most privileged minority among us. neglect majority of AsAms in higher ed #NotYourWedge https://t.co/NXcCQ22LV1
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Q6: What does it mean for someone to “deserve” to be admitted? What does it mean when AsAms say “their” spots are being taken? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A6-Perfect test scores, GPAs, orchestra, debate team are neither necessary nor sufficient for elite admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A6-Some think they're entitled to admission based on notions of “merit”which echo the test-centric focus of home countries. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A6-Awesome to have perfect test scores but FYI strong test scores may be linked to SES #NotYourWedge #Howmuchyoupayforyourtestprep
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A6-Colleges aren't arbiters of self-worth or intelligence. They admit those they think will benefit the school. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
Holistic review benefits us because we are actually real people – and more than our report cards #NotYourWedge https://t.co/HKRiqWbdLf
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A6. I tell my high school students: rejection doesn't mean not qualified. Much more goes into putting together incoming class. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/0WPCvoXrjC
— Michelle Li (@emilytwo) August 8, 2017
A.6Are Asian Americans advantaged or disadvantaged in admissions? UCBerkeley 2016 Freshman: 40% =Asian (19% Chinese) 3% =Black #NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
A.6HEY Affirmative action opponents,take ths quiz.On AVERAGE, Asian American success due to privilege. #NotYourWedge:https://t.co/5fyjZZX0jp
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
A6: Critics of affirmative action often invoke a politics of entitlement around university admissions. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/tBVvQyog1t
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Specifically, they argue from central assumption that a high SAT score entitles an applicant to admission to school of choice. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Or, in other words, that they "deserve" a spot at an elite school more than others. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Or, in other words, that they "deserve" a spot at an elite school more than others. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A6: Elite AsAms think $$ for prep classes = admission. That's entitlement. #notyourwedge https://t.co/i2oR3UMfgn
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
Notice the variation by subgroup. The more privileged the subgroup, the less support for #affirmativeaction. Not coincidental. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/Pdhygc5opq
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Critics also note mean AsAm SAT scores are often higher than for other POC. But, SAT scores are not a linear metric of merit. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Moreover, schools often use SAT score as a cut-off to determine which applicants will undergo holistic review. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
This makes intuitive sense: holistic review is meticulous, time-consuming process wherein 900+ factors are considered #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Harvard receives, on-average, nearly 40,000 applicants a year. SAT scores are used to set baseline for holistic review. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Because, given how extensive holistic review is, it's not feasible to do it for all 40,000 applications. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Once an applicant’s SATs (& other quant scores) qualify them for holistic review, however, actual numbers become less imptnt. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Little weight is put on SATs in holistic review bc they are rly poor predictors of most anything except socioeconomic status. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Indeed, many studies have suggested overreliance on SAT exams creates systemic bias against poor, non-white test-takers. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Elite schools convinced by SATs’ poor predictive power responded by deemphasizing any single high-stakes test for admissions. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
This is good for students. Why should one test taken on one day of a teen’s life matter more than everything else they do? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
How would you like it if I judged you on how you did on something at 8am on a Saturday? #NotYourWedge https://t.co/OEZ6fWq7RK
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
In holistic review, schools consider many other factors of an applicant, incl background, essay, likely major, etc. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Remember, ALL students who make it to holistic review are considered EQUALLY qualified by quant scores. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Indeed, who is more 'deserving': Kid at a prep school who took 5 of 15 APs offered, or student w 3 bc their school only had 3? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
This last rhetorical question begs the debate: what exactly does 'deserving' even mean, when comparing kids of diff K-12 bg? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
This is why for most schools, above baseline students w higher SATs aren’t considered “more qualified” than kids w lower SATs #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Indeed, students of colour often perform just as well as white peers regardless of incoming scores. https://t.co/IzNcuMuX0I #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
It’s true: many kids invest time, energy, effort into preparing for college admissions. There are MANY deserving applicants. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
I would argue that ALL students who make an effort to apply to university are deserving of a higher education. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
But, some elite universities admit <5% of applicants. They must turn away literally thousands of deserving, qualified kids. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
When some AsAms say that they are “more deserving” than others, they are actively delegitimizing other students of color. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
They underscore prevailing notion that students of color are interlopers, and that they are – by virtue of race — unqualified #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
The political and psychological toll of such a message on underrepped Black, Brown, AAPI students cannot be overstated. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And there is a huge body of work on how such messages contribute to negative stereotype threat for these students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
The bottom line is that AsAms should not – morally, ethically, politically – be reinforcing such attacks on other POC. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A6: We have holistic admissions to benefit ALL students. People "deserve" admission depending on circumstances and potential. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/dOSnns3AFs
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A6: It means nothing when people say "their" spots are being taken, they were never yours/ours to begin with. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/dOSnns3AFs
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
"Merit" should be measured by more than SAT scores and our ability to build up white shit. #NotYourWedge
— nina nobu wallace (@nina_nobu) August 8, 2017
A6: Equity is not a commodity. We lose nothing & gain everything when we create space for other POC. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/5Po7NzjBSI
— Densho (@DenshoProject) August 8, 2017
A6: Far far more qualified students than will ever be spaces in elite schools. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A6: The language of entitlement is the language of wealth and privilege. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A6. Come on, grow the F up. No one is "entitled" to go to Harvard. No one is guaranteed "their" spot anywhere. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/BY1iLelCMb
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Q6. Let me be real blunt. Saying you "deserved" to go to Harvard bc you got a big SAT score makes you sound like a whiny baby. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/BY1iLelCMb
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
A6: meritocracy is a myth in America where students attend segregated schools with vastly different resources #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
BTW, for folx unsure what it means to be a wedge. SEe https://t.co/xVq5F7mjxY #NotYourWedge
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
To fight the impression AAs do not support AffAxn, we must dismantle the model minority myth #NoToAntiBlackness #NotYourWedge #ActivistAsian pic.twitter.com/XG0bep5i2V
— Jenny Korn ~ Groovy! (@JennyKorn) August 8, 2017
Q7: Other than Harvard and Ivy Leagues, are Asian Americans less likely to be admitted because of affirmative action? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A7: No, all of the most elite schools receive more qualified applicants than they have room for. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/msDoIVztJz
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A7: I'd actually argue that outside of the elite schools, affirmative action probably makes us more likely to be admitted. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/msDoIVztJz
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A7: As mentioned earlier, Harvard’s admission rate for AsAm students is equal to that of total applicants. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/gYQDugFVql
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
To date, there is little evidence that AsAms as whole are less likely to be admitted bc of aff action. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
However, elite universities don’t report ethnically disaggregated AAPI data for students. We need them to. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We would like to know if aff action is helping with admission&enrollment of traditionally underrepped AAPIs. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We should also remember, again, that we should not focus our conversation solely on elite private universities. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Admissions declining for Asian Ams is myth. @reappropriate:Harvard class of '19, Asians 21% of applicants, 21% of admitted #NotYourWedge
— Janelle S. Wong (@ProfJanelleWong) August 8, 2017
Q7: Majority of students across the country do not attend colleges and universities with selective admissions processes. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A7. This varies widely, but in many predom white parts of country, ALL subgroups of Asians benefit from affirmative action. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/uYdDYcovlK
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
A7-The vast majority of AAPI attend the 4000 universities OTHER than the 8 Ivies and schools approved by magazines. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
folx who apply but get rejected from elites will likely land at highly privileged colleges. #GoBCEagles #ImAHarvardReject #NotYourWedge https://t.co/SFbxmOFy4U
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
And btw if you think a place like Harvard/Princeton/Yale is discriminating against you, why would you want to go there? #NotYourWedge https://t.co/n1yLOcq9pO
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
The anxieties about having a "safety net" are real. But a slot in an elite college wont help as much as #medicare4all, etc. #notyourwedge https://t.co/gpzV243mYn
— free speechs a scam (@hellohln) August 8, 2017
I also want to make it very clear: the quality of education at public unis is fantastic and shouldn't be understated. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
I've gotten parts of my ed at both private & public institutions. There are many ways in which the public uni ed was superior. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Two-thirds of AAPIs attend a public university. So why are we so focused on a bunch of private schools on E Coast? #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Q8: Why do over half of Asian Americans support affirmative action? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A8: Because it's the right thing to do. It's a very small fix to a big historical injustice. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/DHJfHw2jWq
— 18MR.org (@18millionrising) August 8, 2017
A8-because we know that fighting only for ourselves on backs of others is not sustainable for the common good and future. #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
A8: Because we know that our liberation is bound with everyone else and want a just and equitable society. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/hm5qbglfiz
— Aditi Juneja (@AditiJuneja3) August 8, 2017
A8: Because we also see right through the myth of meritocracy. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/DHJfHw2jWq
— 18MR.org (@18millionrising) August 8, 2017
A8: B/C we've experienced oppression first hand and understand it takes legal, social and political change to course correct #notyourwedge https://t.co/c3N5IQA241
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A8: Because we've seen this football presented far too many times to fall for the "look at the other PoC taking your stuff" #NotYourWedge https://t.co/feu7vegtZc
— xian f'znger barrett (@xianb8) August 8, 2017
A8: We are members of unions, affinity groups, community. Like all POC, if we're aware & educated, we support justice #notyourwedge https://t.co/c3N5IQA241
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A8: bc justice, not just us. #notyourwedge
— Amy (@amycwang) August 8, 2017
Trying not to fan girl. Everyone See @mari_matsuda essay "We will not be used!" #NotYourWedge https://t.co/wRzrrw1F33
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Because we still experience racism, sexism, and other systemic oppression. And we value racial justice and equity. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/osM127VKMy
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A8 Because we know the history of this country. Struggle is not over. Divide and conquer still reigns. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A9: Model minority been prevalent since post WWII. We need to create more stories that are accurate to drown out the noise #notyourwedge https://t.co/5c3xcuKdsB
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
Discriminating against individuals based on race is wrong. Lying about the discrimination is wrong and worrying. #NotYourWedge
— Wadasaurus (@Wadasaurus) August 8, 2017
Just as AsAms deserve access to nation’s colleges & universities, so, too, do kids of disenfranchised communities of colour. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
As AsAms, we're in position to fight for higher ed access for all. We should not fight only for ourselves at expense of all. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
A9. We should talk about how As Ams- overall & subgroups even more so- dramatically underrep'd at schools in KS, IA, IN, MO… #NotYourWedge https://t.co/P58xHLKHyG
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Now we'll be asking a couple of audience questions! #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
There are a lot of great questions out there, but we only have time to answer 2 more #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Reminder to respond to questions w/ A9, A10, etc. Be sure to include the hashtag #NotYourWedge anywhere in your tweet
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
@AAAJ_LA Who are some other AAPI scholars/activists would you recommend we follow, re: #NotYourWedge ?
— uyên_t (@vanitycake) August 8, 2017
See works by Jerry Kang and William Kidder. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/z2ogyWIOga
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
See works by Margaret Shih for stereotype effect resarch on AsAms, esp women. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/it25Bu3k7l
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A plug for @reappropriate's blog. Massive amount of data, meticulously analyzed. And she's been doing this for a loooong time. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/60aAXYsryT
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
Julie J. Park (Maryland), Rob Teranishi (UCLA), Mitch Chang (UCLA), Jerry Kang (UCLA), @mari_matsuda, @garceslm (ally) #NotYourWedge https://t.co/TnOVfoeysm
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
I have a book chapter explaining holistic/selective admisison in https://t.co/maUqobWFrr #NotYourWEdge https://t.co/wpT9hWl4HU
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Looking for more facts? Check out @AALDEF's FAQ on #affirmativeaction and #Fisher! #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 9, 2017
Link is here: https://t.co/RVDmXiYUZz #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 9, 2017
If rationale were remedial or focused on disadvantages overcome, we'd have a much more honest convo about race in higher ed #NotYourWedge https://t.co/NNNacsBXm8
— Nancy Leong (@nancyleong) August 8, 2017
How to defend aff action from attacks AND envision alternatives that go beyond commodifying diversity for white consumption? #NotYourWedge
— Mark Tseng-Putterman (@tsengputterman) August 8, 2017
Is there room in the current affirmative action debate to revisit reparations as a real, necessary political option? #NotYourWedge
— Mark Tseng-Putterman (@tsengputterman) August 8, 2017
I think we need to recenter discussion of aff action away from diversity benchmarks. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/jCr77csnXg
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We cld instead think abt why diverse campuses are part of what makes a thriving academic learning environment. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And that this better classroom is specifically beneficial for addressing needs of historically marginalized students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
I think reality is that aff action debate has shifted from a reparations-based model to an academic environment-based model. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/V2y2NBES6U
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And I think this has to do w recent work showing that campus diversity as a continual focus has compounding good for students. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
As much as the redress of historical racism is fully compelling reason, I think so too are these findings. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
But to answer ur question, I think there is absolutely rhetorical room to address BOTH reasons in our support for aff action. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Does language of diversity undermine calls for Ivies to reckon w/ their investment in chattel slavery? #NotYourWedge https://t.co/aFEbupVBCx
— Mark Tseng-Putterman (@tsengputterman) August 8, 2017
<3 both/and. Culture shift is needed. In med school context, language is very much tailored for white consumption/fragility. #notyourwedge
— Jacqueline Mac (@missjackimac) August 8, 2017
My frustration with diversity rationale, as @nkwarikoo explained in #DiversityBargain #NotYourWedge https://t.co/DDoLtyg22E
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
@tsengputterman I think this is the diff btwn "diversity" & "equity", and how they're not the same but used interchangeably #notyourwedge
— Jacqueline Mac (@missjackimac) August 8, 2017
Q10: What actions can college students take to stand with affirm. action? Any laws/petitions/etc to keep an eye out for? #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
A10: Watch out for any petition or effort to cut out racial or gender preferences in public institutions #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A10: any policies that want to restrict students ability to present who they are outside of test scores and grades. #notyourwedge
— Anurima Bhargava (@anurima) August 8, 2017
A10: educate your peers and challenge their perceptions #notyourwedge
— Amy (@amycwang) August 8, 2017
#NotYourWedge pic.twitter.com/vQyfmDgFkj
— NAPAWF (@NAPAWF) August 8, 2017
I think many of us — esp scholars of this field — have a responsibility to correct the record. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
We need to be reiterating, often and loudly, that AAPIs largely support aff action, not opposed to it. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And, I really think we need to push back against the flawed framing of the 2009 Espenshade study. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
The study itself is fine, but it has been endlessly misinterpreted by critics of affirmative action. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
In brief, AsAm students do not need 450 more SAT points than a Black student to get into school. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
That's not a real number. It's a projection of an odds ratio calculated *if* only thing that mattered in admiss were SAT& GPA. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Espenshade himself said that his analysis did not account for basically ALL the other factors considered in holistic review. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And that his data are not a "smoking gun" that proves anti-Asian bias. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Indeed, if one considers the ACTUAL diff in SAT scores between students at elite unis, gap by race is much, much narrower. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
As scholars, we need to ardently push back against this narrative (which borders on anti-science). We need to counter w facts #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Consistent with this, we also need to push back against those who wld simply reject NAAS op survey. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/rWi8xwbHXR
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
That survey, showing strong support for aff action, is scientifically conducted. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Dismissing it simply bc one doesn't like the outcome is also anti-intellectual and anti-scientific. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Alternative facts, partial facts, (un)truths used by anti-aff axn folks. #NotYourWedge I'm a prof, so I say – READ RESEARCH! https://t.co/QEddnIhFmb
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
A10 Educate yourself & engage meaningfully with peers. Esp those who aren't your fb friends. #notyourwedge
— Delia (@DrrrDelia) August 8, 2017
We are on the cusp of a national new culture war over affirmative action, this time placing AsAms front-and-center. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/FF5kqcNp8B
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
College students & all AsAms should stay tuned to this fight. Petitions aren't out yet, but they are surely coming. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
In meanwhile, create panels/workshops on this topic on your college campuses. Inform your peers. Share the work of scholars. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And tell your campus administration and admissions that you support affirmative action! #NotYourWedge
— ?? | SaNa (@sanarikim) August 8, 2017
A10: Long term solution: fight for Ethnic Studies and Asian American studies on your campus! #notyourwedge
— Kim Tran (@but_im_kim_tran) August 8, 2017
A10: Ethnic Studies & AsAm Studies were a vital to unlearning the sino-centrism that might have led me to being anti-affirmact #notyourwedge
— panic @thepats (@BaritonePats) August 8, 2017
(Shameless self-promotion) Also maybe follow the panelists of today's twitter townhall, cuz we do good works on this subj? ^_^ #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
I do a workshop giving folx a glimpse into how elite admissions works. Bring me! 🙂 #NotYourWedge https://t.co/haLG9RC146
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
More shameless self promo. I also give a mean keynote on these issues. Ask @jalton860 🙂 #NotYourWedge https://t.co/ODQk691p5P
— OiYan Poon (@spamfriedrice) August 8, 2017
Just plugging @spamfriedrice & her aff action workshop. I was facilitator for it this year. VERY EFFECTIVE & informative. #NotYourWedge https://t.co/N1pHte9TU3
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
And our audience that day was a group of first-gen Chinese Americans either undecided or a priori opposed to aff action. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Just being exposed to the process of holistic review helped educate (& even change minds) that day. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Moral of the story: if your a college student, invite @spamfriedrice to give a workshop at your campus on aff action. #NotYourWedge
— Reappropriate (@reappropriate) August 8, 2017
Thanks to panelists @reappropriate, @jasonfongwrites, @nancyleong, @spamfriedrice, @anurima, @ProfJanelleWong #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Many thanks to @AAAJ_LA @Veegorous @RachelHLuna @assalone1 @VanessaTeck for moderating #NotYourWedge
— Jason Fong (@jasonfongwrites) August 8, 2017
And a big thank you to all those who have participated this conversation! Keep it going. #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Remember: A transcript of the #NotYourWedge Town Hall will be hosted via @reappropriate
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
Looking for additional resources? Check out @reappropriates master list of #AAPI writing in support of affirmative action #NotYourWedge
— Advancing Justice-LA (@AAAJ_LA) August 8, 2017
